Here's the TLDR version:
- Its anti-states rights. Many states already have malpractice damage caps and all states could implement them if it suited them.
- It provably doesn't lower malpractice insurance premiums according to the biggest malpractice insurer.
- It doesn't even show a correlation between existence of malpractice caps and the price of healthcare - again, many states already have caps and the existence of those caps does not equate to lower heathcare costs.
- It doesn't remove the primary incentive for junk prescriptions and tests - payola. Industry spends billions each year directly influencing doctors.
- It gives away patients rights after they've been crippled by negligent docs, even if a jury agrees that they should have damages awarded.
Enjoy!
[Do] Tort reform.. ie the millions that are spent on protective medical practice that doctors spend on covering their ass against lawsuits.
Tort reform is interesting in just how little it would actually do to fix most of the major problems with the system and how much it would cost us as patients.starting off-
Of course the first argument is that there's really nothing preventing the states of the union from enacting their own versions of tort law, and naturally each state handles it pretty differently. Here's a nice guide as to what the ground rules are in each state.
The federalist argument is of course that States should get to decide what they want and not have tort laws dictated to them by Washington, and that is the current status quo. This allows each state to set up laws according to their own unique constituencies and encourages competition between states for the most effective laws. I'll admit that I'm not much of a federalist when it comes to public safety (though I am in other areas), but I'm just pointing out that the tort reform argument runs counter to the principles of capitalists and federalists because it asks Washington to set the tort laws uniformly for all states while removing the ability of states to offer competitive legislation.
moving on-
When evaluating any potential change you have to honestly evaluate what the specific change is, and look to concrete data. Texas, for example has pretty tight medical malpractice lawsuit caps. Texas also kills a lot of people in hospitals. Texas healthcare is also not measurably less expensive than in a state like Arizona, which does not cap malpractice suits. Here's a fun map of per capita health care expenditures by state.
Relevant data (referencing links given above):
- Texas caps malpractice pain and suffering awards at $250k
- per capita cost of healthcare in Texas $1728 (in 2004, best data I could find)
- Arizona does not cap malpractice on pain and suffering awards (Constitutionally prohibited there)
- per capita cost of healthcare in Az is $1479 in 2004
- The existence of a tight malpractice cap in Texas can't keep healthcare costs below what they are in Az, which has no cap.
- DC is far and away the most expensive district in the union in which to receive healthcare: $4081 per capita in 2004
- Heathcare in DC costs almost 3x as much as it does in Arizona
- Neither state has malpractice caps
- Almost every other state in the union has per capita healthcare costs in between these two states.
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The arguments roots extend to the price of malpractice insurance. IOW, if you cap malpractice awards, then the price of malpractice insurance will go down, allowing doctors to charge less to patients. The problem is that the nation's largest malpractice insurer doesn't see it that way. Here's a quote from that article (emphasis mine):
And then there's the reason for malpractice laws in the first place. If a doctor does a procedure on you and is grossly negligent, he can accidentally cripple you. In Texas there isn't much recourse if the doc you go to relieves you of your ability to use your legs. That gives lots of crappy docs lots of reason to come practice medicine here instead of in Arizona.GE Medical Protective's finding was made in a regulatory filing with the Texas Department of Insurance (TDI),in a document submitted by GE to explain why the insurer planned to raise physicians' premiums 19% a mere six months after Texas enacted caps on medical malpractice awards.
In 2003, Texas lawmakers passed a $250,000 cap on non-economic damage compensation to victims of medical malpractice caps after Medical Protective and other insurers lobbied for the change.
According to the Medical Protective filing: "Non-economic damages are a small percentage of total losses paid. Capping non-economic damages will show loss savings of 1.0%."
last one, I promise-
The last leg of the tort reform argument is that doctors are forced to practice defensive medicine in order to avoid lawsuits. I'll not argue that this doesn't exist, but I will argue that there are better ways to address the problem than capping malpractice awards.
What are the incentives for a doc to order a questionable test on a guy?
- minesweeping for anything he may have missed (science is hard)
- habit (dude has chest pain, lets get an ekg)
- fear of lawsuits
- and of course - money
Generally the point I'm going to make is that lots and lots and lots and lots of the money that pharmaceuticals and medical equipment manufacturers make goes to docs in the form of direct marketing. This means that the megacorp like Pfizer will send a rep to talk with a doc, usually by taking him out to lunch. He'll give him some free samples as part of a "clinical trial," and will encourage the doc to prescribe that drug to his patients in the future. Then he'll set up another meeting in 2 weeks. Oh yeah, and there are 1400 of these reps, doing this exact job, for every single doctor in this country.
Here's a fun exercise - Ask a doc when was the last time he bought lunch for himself. I'll put a couple of quick numbers in context (emphasis mine):
Currently, there are approximately 100,000 pharmaceutical sales reps in the United States[7] pursuing some 830,000 pharmaceutical prescribers. A pharmaceutical representative will often try to see a given physician every few weeks. Representatives often have a call list of about 200 physicians with 120 targets that should be visited in 1-2 week cycles.
The United States has 90,000 pharmaceutical representatives or 1 for every 6.3 physicians.[3]
Pharmaceutical company spending on marketing far exceeds that spend on research.[14][3] In 2004 in Canada $1.7 billion a year was spent marketing drugs to physicians and in the United States $21 billion were spent in 2002.[4] In 2005 money spent on pharmaceutical marketing in the US was estimated at $29.9 billion with one estimate as high as $57 billion.[3] When the US number are broken down 56% was free samples, 25% was detailing of physicians, 12.5% was direct to consumer advertising, 4% on hospital detailing, and 2% on journal ads.[4] In the United States approximately $20 billion could be saves if generics were used instead of equivalent brand name products.[3]
Currently, there are approximately 100,000 pharmaceutical sales reps in the United States pursuing some 120,000 pharmaceutical prescribers.[28] The number doubled in the four years from 1999 to 2003. Drug companies spend $5 billion annually sending representatives to physician offices. Pharmaceutical companies use the service of specialized healthcare marketing research companies to perform Marketing research among Physicians and other Healthcare professionals.
So what happens when we remove the fear of lawsuit incentive from docs? Well, we've left intact the biggest motivator that they have to continue with the junk tests and prescriptions - the free lunch, all while removing the ability of patients to receive the resources needed to cope with getting crippled - even if a jury of their peers deems that type of thing appropriate. Tort reformists would prefer Washington to make those decisions. The net effect is that you get what you see with the states that already have caps - no discernible effect on healthcare costs.
4 comments:
Very good post pointing out different forces that influence physicians like me to order tests on patients. You imply that different incentives are needed, and I agree. Nevertheless, the current tort system is unfair to the medical profession and does not serve as a deterrent against shoddy care, in my view. In addition, it fails to capture most patients who deserve legal redress. There is a reason that every physician I know, and perhaps yours, despises it. See www.MDWhistleblower.blogspot.com under Legal Quality.
Hi Dr Kirsch!
First off, thanks for taking the time to read and respond to the post.
I did go to your blog and read the articles that you have written with regards to your perspective on tort reform, and you seem to be an eloquent and fair-minded person with unique perspective.
Let me offer a little bit of additional context to my post above:
* This was written mainly as an argument against the generic "capping malpractice awards" being brandished by republicans as the cure to the problem of skyrocketing costs in the health industry today. With that said, I think you understand that I'm not arguing against any form of change in the tort system, just against the specific change generally proposed in current republican plans. I realize that I may not have been explicit enough in that since I mostly just copy-pasted this post from a private email that I sent to a friend, so I've edited the title to spell that out a little better.
* I did not go into the systemic problems that I think are running through our country's health industry because I did not want to get off on a tangent. Rest assured though, that I do think many of the incentives are just set up wrong.
* I recognize that I may have come off as being pretty hard on the doctors at the end of my post. Let me contextualize that by saying this:
o I believe that drug companies and medical equipment manufacturers are acting rationally when they inundate you with lunch meetings, free samples, industry sponsored "studies," etc. They have a very very narrow range of people who can actually commit others to the purchase of their products, and it makes sense to target those few individuals aggressively - even to the point of kickbacks and junkets. It's all perfectly legal and rational.
o I believe that doctors are acting rationally when they take these lunch appointments, free samples, trips to fiji, etc. Hey, I'd go, and I don't turn down free meals either. :)
o I think that the major problem does not lie in the fact that the drug companies do this, or that doctors like you participate. The problem lies in the fact that any of that is legal.
Ok, so with that out of the way let me ask you for a little further participation because this is the type of conversation that we get to have out here on the internets that can't exist in TV land or on the radio box. I'll do my best to be reasonable and to cite my sources and I hope you will do the same. I also encourage you to link to and quote this conversation on your excellent blog.
A few questions:
1. Just to get a baseline here, how often do you buy your own lunch in any given month? How much time do you spend interacting with drug and med equip manufacturers?
2. Your legal quality posts make very reasoned and eloquent arguments for changing the tort system, but I haven't seen an alternative system offered. Even in the (excellent) comments in your latest posts you make your case against the current system without proposing alternatives. I'm sure you've thought of a better system, but I do not see it articulated anywhere. If you were king of the US health world, how would you hold doctors accountable for negligence, compensate afflicted patients, and do it without encouraging defensive medicine?
3. On your blog you repeatedly claim that the current system misses most of the truly negligently injured patients, but you never back that up with data or even an anecdote. I'd love your thoughts on this specific issue. Also, how would we more effectively target the truly injured patients and the docs who did things that they should have know better than to do?
thanks!
Thanks very much, Rene, for your comments and clarification. Here's a thought. Repost your comment on one of my tort reform posts that have many comments. In this way, you can have a slew of folks read it, and hopefully respond. If you like, you can address some of the commenters directly. It might be more enlightening to have several folks involved, rather than just the two of us. Your post was good, as well as long!
Admiral Ackbar says: It's a trap!
I think everyone recognizes that malpractice premiums and the threat of lawsuits are a problem that contributes significantly to the high price of health care in this country.
I happen to agree with Rene, though, that tort reform in the form of capping lawsuits is ineffective, not to mention I have issues with it on principle.
I'm not a huge states' rights guy, but I do believe that the whole point of the court system is to balance out the sweeping "all X's must suffer Y" decrees of the legislative branch. Courts consider the various ins and outs of individual circumstances, and to apply the law in the most just manner with those in mind. Like with mandatory minimums, though, damage caps diminish the courts' major strength by inhibiting their ability to tailor the application of the law to individual circumstances.
And by the way, this little corner of cyberspace may not get a lot of readership, but I think I have a very high quality group of readers. They just prefer to lurk.
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